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for those of you that have an 08 and have had the re-flash what in your opinion are the differences. do you like it, hate it, what would you ask for in the 3.0 re-flash if there ever is one....

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My '09 has the current software, will get my '08 flashed next month at the 20,000 mi service.
VERY little difference, certainly not in general upshift quality. A LITTLE less hunting in the 1-2-1 up and down shift at low speeds.

My wife hates the new software because she accidentaly goes to manual shifting by bumping the paddles...long fingernails, I guess.

If you ever drove an Aston Martin, BMW, or Ferrari with the 'automated manual' you would immediately say: "why can't smart shorted the time between gears?" With the above mentioned cars the shift lag time is about 1/10 that of the smart. Thats what I'd like from 'flash 3.0' if there ever is one.
i'll be getting my 10K mile service in a month or so, my pure doesn't shift manually for the first few miles near 0F, and at that temp and below freezing, the auto is baulky when cold for the first mile, when i get the 10K service, i'll ask for the tranny re-flash (funny, my last job was re-flashing LG cell phones)
Gary those cars you mention (Aston Martin, BMW, or Ferrari) are just a tad more expensive and I think use a dual clutch to shift faster.... Dual clutches are on my wish list for hardware upgrade. as software goes I'm happy with the 2.0 so far
Dumb question.....WHat is the re-flash?
I *just* had my 20k service done. How would I know what version of any software I have on the vehicle? I noticed after the 10k service the fuel gauge didn't do the final 1.0 gallon countdown the same but that's the only change I've noticed so far.
Scott and Dough, the re-flash is a software upgrade for your smarts transmission. it is only for 08 models as the 09s have it from the factory. How do you know if you have it? its really simple. get in the car drive around your neighborhood and when the shifter is in D and "D" is showing on your dash, flick the - paddle (left one)... if you are now showing a gear number instead of the "D"... your cars tranny is 2.0..... if you still see the "D" suffer not, you should get a letter in the mail or some sort of communication from smart USA asking you to contact the dealer to get an appointment to have the transmission flashed (software updated).
the technical term is actually..... perform campaign c0209002 upgrade trans / engine software
install software for seq (ASG) and engine control unit

they will also replace the vehicle Vin number sticker and owners manual. Some will also get their shifter lubricated..... and the battery replaced. these two depend on a couple of factors..
good, i'll ask for the whole enchilada when i get my 10K service next month, a new battery would be great. i've already had 2 new shifters and a brake switch installed...

thanks again for the dynamat :D
Dual clutch is a completely different technology.
BMW's (called SMG for Sequential Manual Gearbox) is the very same type of technology. It is all based on Ferrari's "F-1" technology.
was it a sound investment?
Had it done this morning -
transmission flash
ecu flash
battery update - turned out my orphan was a demo and had battery changed at 28 miles!!
sticker updates

The best part of the re-flash - for me - was being able to use the paddle shifters in D position. Made it so much easier to drop down a gear for passing, etc. and then to go back to D mode, if desired.

Did notice a slight improvement in shift speed - that made the shifts a little smoother, especially when a 'heavier' foot on the gas was used. Will be interesting to hear wife's review, since she felt the shifts were OK before (lighter foot on gas).

Note, these are all subjective observations, no instrumentation was involved!

What I would want for 3.0 flash - even faster (and smoother) shifting - so that the 'critics' of the smart (transmission) would have to find another 'flaw' to bitch about. But, my guess is the limiting factor is in the shift mechanism itself, not the control unit.
I just got the letter inviting me to upgrade, and I can't wait! It will be nice to down-shift with a touch, instead of romping on it. I'm sure the engine will like it too. Anything that they can do to add sophistication to this beautiful little transmission is always welcome!

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